A sandwich can be caused without bread. What is bread? What is a filling? If I get hooked up to a simulator and experience through all senses making and eating a PB&J, was that a sandwich? The planes don't need to be on top of each other - if I put a sandwich on its side is it a sandwich? If I throw it? What if there's no gravity, no top? What if there's no one making it? If I have bread bacon lettuce tomato in my grocery bag and brake at a red light and everything goes flying and lands perfectly on top of each other, is that a sandwich? Can a sandwich exist without a chef or someone eating it? Can a sandwich stop being a sandwich over time? Is time real? Sir Edward Sandwich died for this
You know what bread and fillings are. The sandwich in a simulator is just as real as it is in your dreams. Sandwich on its side is still a sandwich. It’s a 3d object so of course I can flip it around. But on earth and with gravity it is right side up normally. If you throw it and it falls apart it is no longer a sandwich. In the same way that if you crush a sandcastle it is no longer a sandcastle, just sand. Yes a sandwich can exist without being eaten in the same way a movie can exist without bring watched. Yes it can exist without a chef. The causes are all loose, they aren’t strict guidelines. The efficient cause is the least fundamental of all actually. Time is relative. Sandwich is not.
If a tamale is made to be masa, filling, then more masa stacked evenly on top and no curved edges, no masa wrapping around the filling…is it a sandwich????
Practicing epoché in this debate
A sandwich can be caused without bread. What is bread? What is a filling? If I get hooked up to a simulator and experience through all senses making and eating a PB&J, was that a sandwich? The planes don't need to be on top of each other - if I put a sandwich on its side is it a sandwich? If I throw it? What if there's no gravity, no top? What if there's no one making it? If I have bread bacon lettuce tomato in my grocery bag and brake at a red light and everything goes flying and lands perfectly on top of each other, is that a sandwich? Can a sandwich exist without a chef or someone eating it? Can a sandwich stop being a sandwich over time? Is time real? Sir Edward Sandwich died for this
That's the 4th Earl of Sandwich to YOU.
You know what bread and fillings are. The sandwich in a simulator is just as real as it is in your dreams. Sandwich on its side is still a sandwich. It’s a 3d object so of course I can flip it around. But on earth and with gravity it is right side up normally. If you throw it and it falls apart it is no longer a sandwich. In the same way that if you crush a sandcastle it is no longer a sandcastle, just sand. Yes a sandwich can exist without being eaten in the same way a movie can exist without bring watched. Yes it can exist without a chef. The causes are all loose, they aren’t strict guidelines. The efficient cause is the least fundamental of all actually. Time is relative. Sandwich is not.
What is a chef?
A tamale is NOT a sandwich. It is connected.
If a tamale is made to be masa, filling, then more masa stacked evenly on top and no curved edges, no masa wrapping around the filling…is it a sandwich????
I think it is both at the same time.
I say no. I think Santi would say yes.
It is a sandwich with no sandwich-ness